How To Clean Kenmore Dishwasher Model 665
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OP  newbie Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 6 | I bought a Kenmore Ultra Wash dishwasher in September of 2005. The model # is 665. It has been working fine until recently. Now, the dishes on the upper rack are not getting clean. I took apart the Feed Tube Assembly to make sure there was nothing blocking the water flow but it was clear. There are two holes where the Manifold slides into the Feed Tube. My thought is that the holes are not sealing properly (there is a rubber seal that flaps open but these stay slightly open) and because of that there is not enough water pressure created to spray the dishes on the top shelf. Does it seem like I am on the right track? My second thought is that there is something wrong with the pump. Everything on the bottom rack is clean and the dishes in the middle of the second shelf are clean too. It is only the dishes that are on the outer edge of the upper rack that are not clean. I would greatly appreciate any feedback. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Hi, Quote: That is the beginning of a model#. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Except the full model# is on the appliance and not the manual. Quote: 66517032400 66517032401 66517032402 66517032403 66517033400 66517033401 66517033402 66517033403 66517034400 66517034401 66517034402 66517034403 66517039400 66517039401 66517039402 66517039403 jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Hey, finally a full model# Quote: Whirlpool built Kenmore, two motors ( one for draining and one for washing ) sideways wash motor assembly style. Quote: If your water level in your dishwasher is fine ( near element ), and its still not pumping the water around, check the chopper blade and check valve rubber flapper inside the wash pump assy. Chopper blade may be clogged up, check valve rubber may be deteriated. If these all are ok, a new motor and pump assy may be required. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| OP newbie Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 6 | Just want to say thanks!!!! I cleaned the chopper blade area and my dishes are getting clean again. There was not a lot of stuff or anything huge blocking the area but what a difference it has made. Thanks. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Hi, Your model# is.......? jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| first timer Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1 | I have a Kenmore dishwasher (almost the same model, but 1603, not 1703) and was having this same problem. I googled last week, found this thread, and tonight my husband performed the recommended fix. I now have sparkly clean dishes again. Thank you, Jeff! |
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| newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 3 | I have an 18 mopnth old (bought in spring 2008) kenmore 665.13742k601 that was having this same problem. I used the directions in this thread, including especially the link to the service manual. I removed a massive amount of hard water stone, and voila, it is working like new. Thank you thank you. One thing I noticed - the manual for the whirlpool on p 21 shows a "Foreign Object Protector" attached to the sump. My kenmore doesn't have that. Anyone know if that is a change because its |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Hi, Quote: Appears to be a little newer style/model....your parts breakdown (with your model# ) doesn't that protector being used. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 2 | I did the clean out of the chopper and still have dishes comming out wit little grains of "stuff" on them. Put a camara inside the tub and the bottom arm is turning 30 RPM but the top arm is only turning about 10 RPM and it will come to a complete stop and sit there for a couple of seconds. My guess is it is time for a new dishwasher, do you feel this is the solution? |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Then it is likely a new motor and pump assy or new d/w time. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 2 | Quote: Kenmore model 665.1737 here with the same problem - Upper rack not getting clean. Checked the chopper assembly (under the inlet protector that covers it - remove the screw and tug up on the screw-hole to remove the cover) and found the perforated plate was clogged with adhesive paper bits from jar labels that had peeled off during washing. To remove the broken chopper assy, used a pair of large tweezers to de-couple the white chopper shaft from the black motor shaft that's inside the housing (at the left-hand end of the white shaft and spring in the picture.) They just interlace together like linked fingers, and the spring was easy to compress. Lessons learned: |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | G'day, Quote: Good tips! jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Hi There, I notice its pretty loud though when the pump is on and the chopper was a little gummed up. Seems to be cleaning much better already, just wondering if its expected to be noisy. Would anyone have the link to the 665.13742k601 service manual as well? Thanks so much! Last edited by kenwashmore; 01/21/10 11:16 PM. |
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| newbie Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 8 | This is the post I've been looking for, thanks. I have a related question regarding the food chopper assembly: Is the blade supposed to move freely, independent of the white shaft? Or should it be engaged full time? Does the black driveshaft move forward when grinding is to take place? When assembled, I can rotate the black driveshaft and the blade does not turn. I ask because I've had to clean out my screen and chopper area every 3 months so that the top rack will get clean. The blade only seems to engage when I push the white shaft forward so that the shapes match up. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Shaft should move to enagage the chopper. Quote: Freely yes, not independently. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 2 | Quote: Since it's wiggling (floppy?) and not just spinning, your coupler teeth may be broken or not engaged. (I'm guessing) At the top end of the white shaft in this picture, you can see that there are 4 white teeth. These need to interlock with the black driveshaft's teeth where that comes out of the motor. The ends of the mating fingers are angle-cut, so they will self-align and engage with each other as long as they are on the same axis. The black shaft has a central guide pin in the center that mates with a hole in the end of white part. My chopper shaft was broken like this one: You can see the teeth that engage with the black driveshaft. (The chopper blade, washer, screen, washer that goes between the metal "cap" and the spring are missing from this pic.) Getting a new chopper in was a little fiddly. Wish I'd thought to take pictures. The hole in the screen is larger than the while plastic shaft so while it's under compression, slide the screen as far UP on the shaft as you can. (Up is the fully round half of the screen, down is the U-shaped half with straight sides) Then drop the whole assembly into it's slot, making sure it's fully seated on both sides and bottom. Hold the screen in place with one finger and slide the needle nose pliers out to release the spring and let the white plastic teeth engage the black driveshaft. Hope this helps. |
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| first timer Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1 | Hi Was wondering if anyone had any ideas regarding the noise problem. My Kenmore stopped cleaning the upper rack and went searching for an obstruction. Found it where everyone else did (if you think this is annoying try pulling chunks of debris out of every hole in every spray arm every three months like I had to with my last one) and the dishwasher's cleaning like new. The only problem is that it's now extraordinarily noisy. I expected it to be a little less silent since I had been having so little water flow but this is not water noise, more like a loud buzzing. I first thought I had not put things back together correctly so I pulled it apart and reassembled but got the same results. I have a hard time imagining what I could have done in cleaning out the inlet protector to mess things up so badly. Is it possible that something was damaged by having that inlet clogged up and now that there's no obstruction and water is flowing freely the damage is more evident? Thanks for any help. Mike |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Hi, Quote: Sure. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| first timer Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1 | Thank you, thank you, thank you! I had the same problem with my dishwasher and came across this site. With your wonderfully detailed instructions and pictures, I, a housewife, was able to fix it myself! Whoohoo! We were about to go out this weekend and buy a new one! You saved us HUNDREDS of dollars! Who knew all I needed to do was clean all the junk out of the screen? I am so proud of myself! Thanks again! |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: Mike did you find out what the issue was? Jeff, I'm running into excessive noise as well. Its a loud constant buzzing as well as some grinding sounds. Cleaned the Chopper again and its still in good shape. Wondering what else I can do to investigate? Thanks. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Bad motor? Quote: Nothing hard in there like a bone or such? jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| Super Handyman Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,694 | I have a KitchenAid version of this dishwasher. My unit was making ungodly noise while running. There was nothing in the chopper, and nothing caught in anything. The problem was the motor itself. The motor shaft seal behind the impeller itself was leaking, and ruined the front bearing on the motor. The guys at the parts store told me that this is a common problem with these Whirlpools. Replacement of the motor/impeller was the cure. It was not that difficult, and the machine is very quiet now. Sometimes, I cant even hear it running. The new motor assembly came with a new motor start capacitor, too. Last edited by Holmesuser01; 06/14/10 07:05 PM. |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: Maybe I'll take a A/V of when its running and send you the link, its really noisy. Cleaned the chopper out its clean and is moving as it should. The noise happens when its in between washing and draining. Once the awful noise finally stops, the drain pump kicks in and it sounds fine. Also, I've opened the door when that noise is happens and its always when there is no water in the tub, so its seems like its in the "chopper" part of the cycle maybe? Last edited by kenwashmore; 06/15/10 11:58 AM. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Quote: Should be water in the d/w "when" the draining starts....make sure the drain hose is not too low and make sure if the drain goes through the floor make sure it is not a too long of a drop down and sucking the water out too early. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: It drops through the floor about a foot and then goes sideways across to the drain. I'll check inside to make sure the hose is still upright on the washer itself. Anything else I can do to make it higher? |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Good! Quote: Loop over the d/w first or clamp it up high before it goes through the floor. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: We must be on the right track then. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: Well this morning it sat there for at least 5-7mins making this noise again. I made a youtube video below. As you can see the tub is bone dry while this is happening. It washes and drains just fine. But this noise cannot be normal! Checked the chopper and it looks good....regardless it doesn't explain the dry tub. Dishwasher noise Last edited by kenwashmore; 06/22/10 12:33 AM. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Certainly -sounds- like something rubbing/hitting something like the pump impellor....check for a foreign objets in the drain pump, hose leading to the drain pump ( not the wash pump ). jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| Super Handyman Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,694 | Did you physically remove the motor from the unit? One bolt, then the motor turns CCW to release. Sounds like something is caught in the pump itself! My old motor made alot more noise than yours is now. If you pull the motor, you can have a look at the bearings, and see if there is evidence of water leaking around the back of the seal. |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: I pulled everything out tonight and I didn't notice any obstruction or bad movement on the wash or drain motor. I'm really stumpted here. It drains and fills fine, but I just don't understand how it washes fine and then has no water left in the tub. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Still syphoning somehow. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: When I put in the dishwasher I just tapped it into the sink drain that goes downstairs. I don't think its vented at all. That wouldnt have anything to do with it would it? |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Plumbing vacuum could suck the water out. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | It drains into the basement and has its own trap - then goes across to meet the sink drain which is also below the trap. As I mentioned above I also routed the drain hose at least 20'' up the washer before heading through the floor. Could it still cause siphoning? If so what can I do to resolve this? |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Nice pics! Quote: Try making sure the hose to to the underneath of the counter before going down through the floor. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: Not sure what you mean? Right now the hose goes up the back of the dishwasher and loops and back down about 20'' and then through the floor to those pics. Last edited by kenwashmore; 06/24/10 01:35 AM. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: With what? Quote: 20" may not be enough, go right up to the underneath of the counter before going down through the floor. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 2 | Hi everyone!! I am new to this forum and glad I found it. I was just researching a similar problem and came across this thread and I must say it is the most informative I have read!! Not to mention the most helpful. I found the problem of a clogged chopper a couple years ago on my Kenmore Ultra Wash (sorry I don't have the model# on me but it is identical to the pictures I am seeing). I also had to clean it out every once in a while when I noticed the top rack not getting cleaned. My problem now is that it gets clogged quite often and the there seems to be some type of fiber plugging the holes which prevents food bits from being pushed through and then it clogs. Has anyone else had this issue? Might it be something wearing out? Rubbing and shredding something? Sorry I did not take a picture but it looks kind of like dryer lint. I can't find anything in the dishwasher, we don't put anything other than dishes in it, no labels or glue from containers, and this has been happening for a while which makes me think something is wearing because something that was dropped inside should have made it's way through by now and not keep plugging over and over. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for the help!! |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Food lint looks similier/like clothing lint. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 2 | Thanks, I'll check on the water temp. I wondered the same because we were using the "puck" type soap and maybe it had something to do with not heating up enough and dissolving. Mid wash I opened the door and there seems to be lots of heat but I will check with a thermometer to be sure. We have since switched back to a liquid soap. When the screen has been freshly cleaned the dishes are sparkling. Sometimes it only takes about a week to clog up! The fibers seem to be really caught up in the screen holes and the chopper appears fine. Should the blades on the chopper be sharp? It seems to me that it just crams and mashes the food through. Thanks again for all your help!! P.S. I have never actually heard of food lint. If that is what I got it sure is excessive. I'll take some pics next clogging. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Not overly...more smushes the food down. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: Hey Jeff - I got a hose extension and ran the drain all the way to the top of the dishwasher, across, and back down through the floor. So its nice and high now. Its still doing the noise buts its more intermittent. I'm not sure what to do next, unless the pump is shot. That shouldn't explain how it gets bone dry in the tub though. Would it still need a vent being that raised up? Last edited by kenwashmore; 07/08/10 11:53 PM. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Get a pail/bucket/garbage can...run the hose into that instead of down stairs to see what happens. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: I'll throw the can downstairs and see what happens during the cycle. I assume nothing should be draining out until the pump kicks in? I'm wondering if the drain trap that is installed may be causing a sphioning action? This is turning out to be a fun project Last edited by kenwashmore; 07/09/10 01:26 PM. |
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| Super Handyman Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,694 | Any chance the OP needs a syphon breaker of some kind? My DW drain line goes out and loops up to the countertop before going thru the cabinet side into the disposer. Mine has no water going to the disposer until the drain pump kicks in, then it gushes! I'm still wondering about the bearing on the wash motor. My Kitchenaid was used when I got it, and the previous owner told me the noise the motor made got louder and louder over several years. She decided not to fix it, but replace it (with a plastic Electrolux!) Im thoroughly happy with this DW, and now that its slight problems are fixed, it does an excellent job cleaning! Last edited by Holmesuser01; 07/09/10 06:41 PM. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Upstairs. Quote: Any standing water in the hose will drain out. Quote: Syphone break maybe. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: Hi Jeff - I'm trying it this morning with the drain off and it just draining into a pail downstairs. Not a drop of water has came out during the cycle! Quote: What's a syphone break? Do I need to have a trap installed? Also, does it matter what the slope is of the drain after the trap? I.e should it be straight down? Currently its goes sideways for a while and then down. From what I'm seeing its the trap/drain setup. Last edited by kenwashmore; 07/10/10 02:28 PM. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Why? Kinked the hose? Quote: Helps to prevent water from syphoning out...can also help to prevent water from flowing the wrong direction. An EG of one kind... Quote: A drain trap is always the best idea. Quote: Both -could- be bad...longer run or heavy pull can suck the water out of something above. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: Nope what I meant is that no water siphoned out. It only came out when the drain kicked on. Which is how it should be Quote: From what I'm seeing I need to adjust the slope of trap/drain downstairs. Since I have the hose routed at the top of the counter and down I shouldn't need an air gap I would assume and it shouldn't sipon out. Stay tuned. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: And the noise was....gone, better, same? jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: Completely gone. Check your private messages Last edited by kenwashmore; 07/12/10 09:03 PM. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | I saw the video. The renovation is a good idea, that would be a good time to correct that drain issue. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: I had it running again today (into the garbage can) and it seemed to siphon out about 10mins into the cycle. Cancelled the cycle and re-ran it and it seemed fine. I'm thinking I may need an air gap or something as well. |
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| first timer Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1 | I've just registered so I can say thank you for the instructions, pictures, and access to the right Kenmore/Whirlpool manual!!! I dismantled enough of our dishwasher (the 665.1703,etc., that everyone has troubles with) with your help and a few trips to the store to get the right torx screwdrivers--and the glasses are sparkling once again! |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Air gaps are normally not installed in Canadian plumbing. JMO! jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 28 | Quote: I couldn't agree more. That said I'm kinda stuck until we redo the kitchen next year and put it in a proper setup. What we do know: Draining it into a tank downstairs makes it work dramatically better than tying into the kitchen sink below the trap. Jeff: What do you suggest? Should I run ABS all the way across downstairs (and have a trap as well) and up into behind the DW? And then but an air gap above the connection? Or should I keep the existing setup and find a siphon break? Again many thanks...I know things aren't "standard" at this point but I would've thought it'd be easy to stop the siphoning....considering I do have the hose looped to the top of the cabinet now. Unless there is an issue with the DW itself? |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: I would think that would be a good try! jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 2 | Thanks for the very helpful information. One more question to help a newbie get started if you'd be so kind: in order to access the problematic filter and be able to clean it (and thus hopefully get the top rack cleaning again), I take it that I need to unscrew the feeder tube and lift out the lower spray arm, as shown at pp. 17-18 of this manual: |
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| newbie Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 2 | Thanks for the very helpful information. One more question to help a newbie get started if you'd be so kind: in order to access the problematic filter and be able to clean it (and thus hopefully get the top rack cleaning again), I take it that I need to unscrew the feeder tube and lift out the lower spray arm, as shown at pp. 17-18 of this manual: |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Hi, Quote: Rack bar end cap/stop is removed to slide out the rack... ...should be a push in the middle to remove the end cap/stop. jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| first timer Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1 | I was amazed to find this post from AwsumO on 6/28/2010 at 4:14pm describing the "exact" problem I'm having with our Kenmore dishwasher. That is, some sort of fiber is routinely clogging the holes in the food grinder. I thought it had to be something we were putting in the dashwasher, but after reading this posintg there must be some nother explantion (i.e. something wearing). Has anyone identified a resoluton to this issue? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. |
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| Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,395 | Quote: Often food lint...watch/be carefull what is put inside the d/w....scrape plates and such before loading ( no rinceing them ). jeff. It's ok to talk to yourself, it's even ok to answer yourself... |
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| newbie Joined: May 2013 Posts: 2 | Hello! This is a great post. I am making progress on fixing my 66516882000 because of this post. I can't get the inlet protector off to see the chopper assembly. I have already removed the inlet protector screw, the foreign object protector, and the foreign object protector screw. Any ideas? I've been trying to pry it out but it's not budging. |
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| newbie Joined: May 2013 Posts: 2 | Okay, used a pliers to yank out the inlet protector. The chopper assembly fell apart immediately into the sump area. It looks from parts pages and videos that this assembly is supposed to stay together, so I ordered a new one. It's not clear to me from the pieces what happened to it. I'll reply again after I get the new assembly. |
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| newbie Joined: May 2013 Posts: 2 | I had this problem with my dishwasher and I found that if I stopped putting large pans or pyrex dishes in the bottom that lean over, the water can get to the top rack. I am not a repairman, just a working housewife. This helped my problem. |
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| Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 1 first timer | |
| first timer Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 1 | First of all, thanks to all those who have submitted ideas and comments about repair of their 665.1737xxxx dishwashers. Mine is a 2002 model and 5 months ago, I noticed my top rack dishes were not clean. After finding this site, I took chopper assembly apart and found a worn out chopper. Replaced, and noticed top rack dishes were getting clean again. Pat on the back. Fast forward to this week and top rack dishes again not clean. Went back to the chopper assembly and found it covered in a clothes lint looking material, which effectively blocked the passage of water thru the chopper screen. Removed the lint and top rack was cleaning again, but I took it apart again because I suspected something else was wrong. Sure enough, after only one cycle, the screen was plugging with material. What I discovered was the end of the motor shaft that drives the chopper blades, had been worn smooth. With a bright flashlight, I could see where the teeth/splines had been, but the shaft was pretty much smooth in the area where the chopper attachment engages with the shaft splines. Bottom line: chopper blades were not turning because of worn motor shaft splines, which likely resulted in the lint buildup. Ordered a new Sump & Motor Assembly (W10239405, or Sears part 8268413) from Amazon for $84 shipped. |
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| Joined: Nov 2016 Posts: 1 first timer | |
| first timer Joined: Nov 2016 Posts: 1 | I have a Kenmore 665-77983K... model and it is different on the inside. It has a perforated stainless steel screen that pops out and a removable filter. When I remove the spray arms , etc I have no visible chopper assembly that is mentioned in this thread . Any ideas on this bad boy ? Last edited by Maverick69; 11/21/16 05:45 PM. |
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| Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 1 first timer | |
| first timer Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 1 | I have a Kenmore Elite 665.16933 that also gets hair/lint on the chopper screen every couple of months which results in poor performance especially top shelf. We Confirmed that the black rubber thing (check valve) is in need of replacement but we have a suspicion that there may be an issue with the assembly that connects the chopper being stripped. Would I buy the circulation pump or are there two recommended parts. I’m a little confused on the fact that there seems to be two part item numbers. |
How To Clean Kenmore Dishwasher Model 665
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